First, we hear part of a panel from the recent Fight Toxic Prisons conference, which was held last week in Pittsburgh. Saleem Holbrook shares his experiences after doing nearly three decades inside, with a focus on what it’s like to organize behind the walls. Coming into the system when he was young, he describes the influence of older prisoners on himself and others. He speaks on the influence of Malcolm X, the George Jackson Brigade, and how those thoughts sat with them for years before culminating in the Human Rights Coalition, and other ways to act against a system designed to oppress those inside. Now, Holbrook is out, and continues to organize. He is the co-founder of the Human Rights Coalition, along with his late mother. Holbrook sat down for an interview with us to speak more in depth about his own experiences, and how the families of prisoners can get organized to make a positive impact on their loved ones on the inside.